{"id":13622,"date":"2022-07-04T05:53:02","date_gmt":"2022-07-04T05:53:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/?p=13622"},"modified":"2022-10-05T05:57:14","modified_gmt":"2022-10-05T05:57:14","slug":"how-to-diagnose-rough-running-or-stalling-for-detroit-diesel-gen5-dd-platform-engine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/how-to-diagnose-rough-running-or-stalling-for-detroit-diesel-gen5-dd-platform-engine\/","title":{"rendered":"How to diagnose rough running or stalling for Detroit Diesel Gen5 DD platform engine"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This instruction show you guide on how to diagnose rough running or stalling for Detroit Diesel Gen5 DD platform engine.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Preparations:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/detroit-diesel-diagnostic-link-dddl-software-download\/\">2022 Detroit Diesel Diagnostic Link DDDL 8.15 8.09 Free Download<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Procedures:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>1.Connect DiagnosticLink .<\/p>\n<p>2.Turn ignition ON (key ON, engine OFF).<\/p>\n<p>3.Are any of the following fault codes present?<\/p>\n<p>SPN 1077\/FMI 7 Rail Pressure Deviation<\/p>\n<p>SPN 157\/FMI 16 Rail Pressure Deviation<\/p>\n<p>SPN 3250\/FMI 0 DOC Outlet Temperature Very High<\/p>\n<p>SPN 3246\/FMI 0 DFP Outlet Temperature Very High<\/p>\n<p>3a Yes; perform the troubleshooting for the fault code.<\/p>\n<p>3b No; Go to step 4.<\/p>\n<p>4.Using DiagnosticLink, Key ON, Engine OFF (KOEO), monitor the EGR delta P voltage with the coolant temperature above 65\u00b0C (150\u00b0F). Is the EGR Delta P voltage between 0.55 to 0.82 volts?<\/p>\n<p>4a Yes; Go to step 5.<\/p>\n<p>4b No; perform the troubleshooting for SPN411\/FMI 13.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>WARNING<\/p>\n<p>PERSONAL INJURY<\/p>\n<p>Diesel engine exhaust and some of its constituents are known to the State of California to cause cancer, birth defects, and other reproductive harm.<\/p>\n<p>Always start and operate an engine in a well ventilated area.<\/p>\n<p>If operating an engine in an enclosed area, vent the exhaust to the outside.<\/p>\n<p>Do not modify or tamper with the exhaust system or emission control system.<\/p>\n<p><strong>WARNING<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>ENGINE EXHAUST<\/p>\n<p>To avoid injury from inhaling engine exhaust, always operate the engine in a well-ventilated area. Engine exhaust is toxic.<\/p>\n<p><strong>WARNING<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>PERSONAL INJURY<\/p>\n<p>To avoid injury before starting and running the engine, ensure the vehicle is parked on a level surface, parking brake is set, and the wheels are blocked.<\/p>\n<p>5.Disconnect the delta P electrical sensor. Key ON Engine Running, idle the engine for 30 seconds, then using the accelerator pedal, increase the engine to 1000 rpm. Did the engine stop surging?<\/p>\n<p>5a Yes; clean the Exhaust Gas Recirculation Venturi ports and verify repairs.<\/p>\n<p>5b No; Go to step 6.<\/p>\n<p>Note : If the fuel mass is over 50 mg\/st at 600 rpm (engine at operating temperature), abort the FSIC routine and Go to step 7.<\/p>\n<p>Note:See examples of erratic pressure showing (1) ASL001 Rail pressure and (2) AS098 Desired rail pressure.<\/p>\n<p>6.Run an automatic Fuel System Integrity Check (FSIC) test. Review the automatic FSIC log file. Does ASL001 Rail Pressure have a saw tooth pattern or does the desired rail pressure and rail pressure deviate by more than 50 bar (725 psi)?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/how-to-diagnose-rough-running-or-stalling-for-detroit-diesel-gen5-dd-platform-engine\/detroit-diesel-engine-gen5-dd-platform-rough-running-or-stalling-diagnostics-1\/#main\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-13627\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-13627\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"873\" height=\"420\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-1.jpg 873w, https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-1-300x144.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-1-768x369.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 873px) 100vw, 873px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/how-to-diagnose-rough-running-or-stalling-for-detroit-diesel-gen5-dd-platform-engine\/detroit-diesel-engine-gen5-dd-platform-rough-running-or-stalling-diagnostics-2\/#main\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-13626\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-13626\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"886\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-2.jpg 886w, https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-2-300x173.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-2-768x444.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 886px) 100vw, 886px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>6a Yes; replace the Quantity Control Valve (QCV).<\/p>\n<p>6b No; Go to step 7.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>7.Review the automatic FSIC log file. At 600 rpm, is fuel mass over 50 mg\/st?<\/p>\n<p>7a Yes; replace both engine brake solenoids.<\/p>\n<p>7b No; Go to step 8.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>8.Check for aerated fuel. Refer to section \u201cAerated Fuel Test \u201d . Is fuel aerated?<\/p>\n<p>8a Yes; if fuel is aerated, repair or replace as necessary.<\/p>\n<p>8b No; if fuel is not aerated, Go to step 9.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>9.Check for loose connections, kinked fuel lines or issues related to the fuel system. Were any issues found with the fuel system?<\/p>\n<p>9a Yes; repair or replace as necessary.<\/p>\n<p>9b No; Go to step 10.<\/p>\n<p>Note : If rust is found in the filters, Refer to section \u201cDiesel Exhaust Fluid in Fuel\u201d .<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10.Remove the Fuel Prefilter and Fuel Coalescer\/Final Filter. Check for damaged or missing seals at the bottom of filters. Are damaged or missing seals at the bottom of the filters?<\/p>\n<p>For Gen 5 DD13 and DD15 engines: Refer to section \u201cRemoval of the Fuel Prefilter\u201d and Refer to section \u201cRemoval of the Coalescer\/Final Filter\u201d .<\/p>\n<p>10a Yes; replace fuel filters as necessary.<\/p>\n<p>10b No; Go to step 11.<\/p>\n<p>11.Check air vents at the top of the Fuel Coalescer\/Final filter for blockage. Is any blockage found?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/how-to-diagnose-rough-running-or-stalling-for-detroit-diesel-gen5-dd-platform-engine\/detroit-diesel-engine-gen5-dd-platform-rough-running-or-stalling-diagnostics-3\/#main\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-13625\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-13625\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"750\" height=\"873\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-3.jpg 750w, https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-3-258x300.jpg 258w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>11a Yes; replace the fuel filter as needed.<\/p>\n<p>For Gen 5 DD13 engines: Refer to section \u201cInstallation of the Coalescer\/Final Filter\u201d .<\/p>\n<p>For Gen 5 DD15 engines: Refer to section \u201cInstallation of the Coalescer\/Final Filter\u201d .<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>11b No; Go to step 12.<\/p>\n<p>Note : Use the appropriate parts catalog to verify injector part numbers.<\/p>\n<p>12.Verify the fuel injector(s) part number is correct for engine application. Is the fuel injector(s) part number correct?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/how-to-diagnose-rough-running-or-stalling-for-detroit-diesel-gen5-dd-platform-engine\/detroit-diesel-engine-gen5-dd-platform-rough-running-or-stalling-diagnostics-4\/#main\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-13624\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-13624\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-4.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"695\" height=\"698\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-4.jpg 695w, https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-4-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-4-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-4-50x50.jpg 50w, https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-4-120x120.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 695px) 100vw, 695px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>12a Yes; Go to step 13.<\/p>\n<p>12b No; install correct fuel injector(s).<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>13.Compare calibration code(s) using the DiagnosticLink panel \u201cInjector Codes\u201d with six-digit calibration code(s) on the fuel injector(s). Do the calibration codes match the appropriate cylinder?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/how-to-diagnose-rough-running-or-stalling-for-detroit-diesel-gen5-dd-platform-engine\/detroit-diesel-engine-gen5-dd-platform-rough-running-or-stalling-diagnostics-5\/#main\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-13623\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-13623\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-5.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1252\" height=\"746\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-5.jpg 1252w, https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-5-300x179.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-5-1024x610.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Gen5-DD-Platform-Rough-Running-or-Stalling-Diagnostics-5-768x458.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1252px) 100vw, 1252px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>13a Yes; Go to step 14.<\/p>\n<p>13b No; correct the calibration codes using DiagnosticLink.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>14.Check valve lash and engine brake rocker lash. Is valve lash within specification?<\/p>\n<p>14a Yes; Go to step 15.<\/p>\n<p>14b No; readjust lash and retest.<\/p>\n<p>15.Using DiagnosticLink\u00ae, perform a relative compression test; Refer to section \u201cRelative Cylinder Compression Test\u201d . Are the results in range?<\/p>\n<p>15a Yes;replace all six fuel injectors.<\/p>\n<p>For Gen 5 DD13 engines: Refer to section \u201cRemoval of the Fuel Injector\u201d .<\/p>\n<p>For Gen 5 DD15 engines: Refer to section \u201cRemoval of the Fuel Injector\u201d .<\/p>\n<p>15b No; perform a Mechanical Cylinder Compression Test. Refer to section \u201cMechanical Cylinder Compression Test\u201d .<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>For more repair case about Detroit,please refer to:<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnautotool.com\/blog\/detroit-diesel-engine-repair\/\">Detroit Diesel Engine Repair<\/a><\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This instruction show you guide on how to diagnose rough running or stalling for Detroit Diesel Gen5 DD platform engine. 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